greg: after the election, people get what they deserve? >> i hate to admit that, but i think you are right. a lot of this is just messaging. i think that president obama president obama did a much better job making the election about dancing horses and contraception and gay marriage. but it's not about that. we are going down the tubes and we have this massive onslaught of taxes coming on in the midst of a terrible economy. greg: i asked this of mary katharine ham. a republicans making a big mistake by being painted into a corner as defending the rich? >> i think that if it gets portrayed like that -- republicans are terrible and they need to learn how to talk about fiscal responsibility in a bright and positive way. they have not been very good at that. mitt romney, though i thought he turned out to be a strong candidate, he always we failed to tell the story of low taxes and limited government and freedom. so republicans need to learn how to do this much better. greg: charlie, thank you so much. it's good to see you. jenna: turning next